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Muslims Quit Packing Meat After Learning They Were Touching Meat

.... and then unable to pray about it afterwards (while on the job).

Seriously. Recall all the news lately about Somali muslims and muslim workers in general demanding their religious times off and if that conflicted with American holidays then they could do without the American holidays.

Now there is a bit of a different take going on in Nebraska. It seems that their religious freedom (oh the irony of it all) is being hampered.
Five-hundred Muslim workers walked off the job [Ed: Dang, how many people work at that plant? Is it all muslim there?] Monday at a Grand Island meatpacking plant [Ed: JBS Swift & Co.] after they say they were denied time to pray during the Muslim observance of Ramadan. Hawo Mohammed said she tried to pray quickly in the bathroom until a male supervisor followed her in and told her she was taking too long.

More than 100 workers at a Greeley Swift plant were fired last week because the company said they walked away from work before their shifts ended. The workers blamed the company's refusal to allow their breaks to coincide with sunset so they could pray.

Swift, which was purchased by Brazil's JBS SA in March, has had problems with Muslim workers at the Grand Island plant in the past.

Dozens of workers from Somalia quit their jobs last year because they said they weren't allowed to pray at sunset. They eventually returned to work.


I thought it was against their religion to even go into a bathroom without praying because they believe that it is a place full of evil and demons. So, why go their to do their holy prayers? And she was on the floor?

How come they can't just do it while standing and packing their meat? How much time do they need? Do they need like 5 minutes? Can they stagger their prayers so the line continues operation? Or are they asking that everyone takes time off to go out and pray? You know how much that would cost a plant to shut its production down and then try and start back up? Are they asking for more time? Why don't reporters ask questions any more?

Do you think they pack pork? Would they make that plant shut down or change its product line if they wanted to process pork? [Update: The company itself does process pork!]

If they knew the hours of the plant prior to working there then they can't complain now!

Love this comment in the article:
Buckwheat writes:

Who really gives a crap......Hey look!!! 500 job openings at Swift!! Welcome 500 people from Galveston who now need jobs.


[update 2:] It would seem that the plant is only a beef slaughter facility that employs 2600 people. 20% or more are muslims. wow! In small town Nebraska!?!??!!?

[Update 3:] This guy has even more info about the company. It seems that they hire quite a number of muslims for their facilities. They fired 100 muslims at their Greeley plant a few days ago over prayers as well.

Could this be a company wide effort on the part of the management, or just a company-wide effort on part of muslims to force changes?

Yeah!!! Ibrahim Hooper of our favorite CAIR has gotten involved!! Pat Dollard has more on the story:

Workers in Nebraska gave managers a 45-minute window in which prayer breaks were necessary; in Greeley the workers offered a 10-minute window, according to people familiar with the discussions.

The Greeley workers, all Muslim and many Somalian, were fired Wednesday for not reporting to work after nearly 400 walked off the job Friday saying they were denied prayer time. At issue is a request by the workers for a 10-minute prayer break at sundown.

Workers said they were refused the break on Friday but had been allowed the break previously.

About 120 employees returned to work Tuesday after JBS officials said they’d accommodate the need for Muslim prayers, but only during a universal meal break that turns out to be too late for the religious practice and too early for other workers.
 
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DMartyr on 2008-09-17 06:38 #1
*They quit last year for the same reason, and Swift hired them back?

WTF?

Hopefully Swift will learn a lesson this time.
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Peterk on 2008-09-17 08:25 #2
*"How come they can't just do it while standing and packing their meat?"
because Islam also means submission and prostrating themselves on the floor while praying symbolizes their submission to God. Unlike Christians who can stand on a production line and can quickly say a prayer


"How much time do they need?"
I once observed a Muslim perform one of the prayers (I think it was the last one of the day) and it took more than 5 minutes just to perform the rituals

"Do they need like 5 minutes?"
Its not just the time needed to perform the prayers, but the time needed to perform wudu - a ritual cleansing. just go to youtube and search for wudu and you'll find numerous videos of Muslims performing wudu


"Can they stagger their prayers so the line continues operation?"

nope the times are preordained and they change daily, see the following websites
http://www.islamicity.com/prayerTimes/
http://66.132.167.76/index0.php?offset=240&day=17&month=9&year=108
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captainfish on 2008-09-17 10:13 #3
*I have never claimed to know what Islam is or their traditions or the private ways of muslims, but when they begin to interfere with how someone wants to operate their business then, to me, it does not matter.

Thank you Peterk for providing some more info. While most of my comments were a bit sarcastic. My point was to make a point. And I thank you Peterk for helping me make it.

How can a business operate with people taking off when they want at various times through the shift to just say prayers. You give them break times, bathroom breaks, lunch breaks, and breaks to the water or snack machines. And now, these muslim workers want extra breaks that can vary in length and timeframe in order to pray?

I have always believed that an owner of a company is and should be the rule-maker of their company. If the worker does not like the rules, then they can go somewhere else.

If these muslims can seek forgiveness from their god for working for a kufar, then can't they also ask forgiveness for not prostrating themselves on the floor of a meat slaughtering plant while praying?

What next? Are they going to demand the other 1500 people to not eat during Ramadan?

You know, to my God, there is no Time. He does not care when I pray to him, only that I do pray. There is always a sunset somewhere on earth.

Thanks for the comments Peterk. I appreciate it.
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